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Jackson Dahl
@dialecticpod 🟦🎙️
學習和幫助@Pacecap。前世@paradigm @100thieves
隱含或明確地,你希望為你的孩子塑造什麼?
Steven Rinella (@stevenrinella) 從小就對狩獵和釣魚著迷。他將這種熱情轉化為一個 Netflix 節目,並運營著世界上最大的戶外播客之一。
David Senra (@Founderspodcast) 給我看了一個訪談,他被問到如果他的孩子不像他一樣關心戶外活動,他會有什麼感受。
Steven 的回答很簡單:即使他們不繼承他的熱情主題,他希望他的孩子們記住一位始終全心投入的父親——從不被動,從不只是走過場。也許他們會覺得他的熱情有點奇怪或過於誇張。但他認為,遲早他們會明白這個信息:
無論你做什麼,都要全力以赴。
這讓我想起了我和 Mackenzie Burnett (@ciaomack) 的對話,她在一個不同的世界長大,但她看到她的父母也有相同的情況。
他們都是公務員,並沒有發表激昂的演講來談論責任或愛國主義。他們只是用工作相關的話題填滿了家裡:農業政策、疾病控制和植物健康。
Mackenzie 說,聽他們的談話讓她內心產生了公共服務和公共責任感:
“我從小就沒有質疑過我擁有的深厚愛國情懷,至今仍然如此。這是因為我小時候,和談論日常工作的父母一起長大,這一切都感覺非常正常。”
多年後,在創辦 Ambrook (@ambrookag)——一家為農場和牧場建立金融工具的公司——後,Mackenzie 意識到她從聽父母的談話中吸收了多少。
她記得當她的母親,一位印度移民,告訴她她選擇從事公共服務是為了回饋這個給了她如此多的國家時,她感到一陣寒意。
在那一刻,她看到了自己在 Ambrook 的使命與父母所展示的服務和愛國主義的傳承之間的聯繫。
Mackenzie 和我在 @DialecticPod 上談論了她獨特的影響、美國夢以及為什麼小型獨立企業仍然是其核心,以及建立能夠抵禦困難的金融工具所需的條件。以下是鏈接。

Jackson Dahl2025年8月29日
I talked to Mackenzie Burnett (@ciaomack) about building financial tools for the independent businesses of America's heartland.
Mackenzie is the template of a deeply serious, strategic, and tactical entrepreneur whose engine is not purely ambition, but purpose. Hearing her talk about the big and small of her work is infectious.
With @AmbrookAg, Mackenzie is focused on enabling the American Dream and by way of bottom-up resilience. She calls it Grassroots American Dynamism.
She combines a rare combination of knowledge across technology, agriculture, policy, and finance that has shaped Ambrook's ability to deliver great financial software for underserved customers, starting with farmers and ranchers.
Highlights:
- the government's complexity: we treat it like a black box that is either fully incompetent or fully trusted; in fact it is many individuals--mostly non-political appointees--responding to incentives
- pragmatic environmentalism: meet people where they are with outcomes rather than ideology
- language matters: “resilience” travels further than “sustainability”
- "biological factories": why farms are deceptively complex businesses
- "everything goes back to accounting": Wading into complexity is freeing: it enables long-term thinking, better decision-making, and lower anxiety
- "make the intractable tractable": the CEO’s job is to ingest lots of information and turn messy problems into solvable ones
- explore with niche entry points: generalized explanations or histories can be appealing, but specificity can be more meaningful (like understanding Italy by way of citrus)
- physical design systems: why aesthetics and spaces matter
Transcript and all links below.


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